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<!--Generated by Squarespace Site Server v5.5.4 (http://www.squarespace.com/) on Sun, 05 Jul 2009 23:39:33 GMT--><rss xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/" xmlns:itunes="http://www.itunes.com/dtds/podcast-1.0.dtd" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" version="2.0"><channel><title>Kline on Edwin Burr Pettet</title><link>http://indiawritingstation.com/kline-on-edwin-burr-pettet/</link><description>Kline on Edwin Burr Pettet</description><copyright>Interview Copyright 2005 Michael Chacko Daniels</copyright><language>en-US</language><generator>Squarespace Site Server v5.5.4 (http://www.squarespace.com/)</generator><item><title>A Follow-Up On the Slow Learner's Journey</title><dc:creator>Michael Chacko Daniels</dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2005 20:59:04 +0000</pubDate><link>http://indiawritingstation.com/kline-on-edwin-burr-pettet/2005/10/5/a-follow-up-on-the-slow-learners-journey.html</link><guid isPermaLink="false">15502:336630:267763</guid><description><![CDATA[<div style="text-align: left;"><font size="5" style="color: rgb(0, 51, 0); font-weight: bold;">Learner's Learner</font></div><div style="text-align: left;">&nbsp;</div> <div style="text-align: left;"> </div> <div style="text-align: left;"><font size="5" style="color: rgb(0, 51, 0); font-weight: bold;">Peter Lee Kline </font></div><div style="text-align: left;">&nbsp;</div> <div style="text-align: left;"> </div> <div style="text-align: left;"><font size="5" style="color: rgb(0, 51, 0); font-weight: bold;">And Edwin Burr Pettet</font></div><div style="text-align: left;"> </div><div style="text-align: left;"> </div> <div style="text-align: left;"><font size="5" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 0); font-weight: bold;">Q</font><font size="5" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);">____________________</font><font size="5"><br /><br /></font><font style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204); font-weight: bold;">New River Free Press International:</font><br /><font size="5" face="arial" style="color: rgb(153, 0, 0);"><br />How did Edwin Burr Pettet<br /><br />influence you?</font><font size="5"><br /></font><font size="5" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);">_____________________</font></div> <p> <br /> <font size="2"> </font><br /> <font size="5"><font style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 51, 0);">PeterKline   </font></font><font size="2"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 102); font-family: arial;">Edwin Burr Pettet</span>, the teacher that influenced me the most, was a brilliant theater director who brought his acting, directing and playwriting skills into the classroom. </font><br /> <br /> <font size="2">I found that I could remember everything he said well enough to write it down on an exam months later and use it in writing books years later, because he said whatever he said in such a compelling manner that it was unforgettable.</font><br /> <br /> <font size="2">That's probably why the rest of the faculty at </font><font size="2"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 51, 0);">Amherst College</span></font><font size="2"> couldn't stand him, and why the college did not renew his contract. </font><br /> <br /> <font size="2">He made most of the other teaching I was exposed to there seem rather pointless, needlessly confusing, unfocused, and largely beside the point of almost anything that I thought it might be intended to apply to. </font><br /> <br /> <font size="2">So the first thing I learned from him was that teaching combines the art of the dramaturge with the skill of the salesperson. </font><br /> <br /> <font size="2">Whatever you are teaching is something you must sell to your student. If the student isn't interested, that is a sign that you haven't sold it. </font><br /> <br /> <font size="2">That does away once and for all with the myth that says, &quot;I taught it to them but they didn't learn it.&quot; That's like saying, &quot;I sold it to them, but they didn't buy it.&quot;</font><br /> <br /><font size="2">I understood that learning is a form of play and never anything else. (Every infant is born knowing that, and it takes a great deal of brutality to make the young person think that learning is a matter of concentration and hard work. </font><font size="2">As a student, I always found that concentration and hard work got me nowhere because I was concentrating so much on concentrating that I couldn't pay any attention to what I was supposed to be learning.)</font><br /> <br /> <font size="2">I knew that as a teacher I had to engage my students, just as I had to engage my readers as a writer. You're always learning the most when you're unaware that you're learning anything at all. (That's like &quot;music heard so deeply that it is not heard at all.&quot;) </font><br /> <br /> <font size="2">Every subject can be turned into a theatrical experience. There is nothing so dull that it hasn't lit a fire in some brain, and the way that brain thinks about it is the stuff from which the great drama of teaching is made.</font><br /> <br /> <font size="2">Another thing that Pettet did was awaken me to the art of reading for the very first time. He presented to me the ideas of <span style="font-family: arial; font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 102);">George Bernard Shaw</span> in such a way that in reading Shaw I felt I was discovering myself. For a while, Shaw's ideas became my ideas. </font><br /> <br /> <font size="2">Then Pettet pointed out that <span style="font-family: arial; font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 102);">T. S. Eliot</span>, a writer that is as far from Shaw as any writer could be, was in reality just like him, because both of them had a deeply religious view of the world and expressed it as the primary message of their writing. For Shaw the Life Force was the central focus of the religious experience. </font><br /> <br /> <font size="2">For Eliot, it was the still point at the center of the turning world.  </font><br /> <br /> <font size="2">Again, they seemed poles apart, and yet they were the same. From that I learned that synergy comes from the marriage of opposites, from their finding the commonality between them. </font><br /> <br /> <font size="2">I now believe that you can't understand anything unless you can effectively argue the most extreme view of each of the polarized opposite positions from which the subject may be viewed. </font><br /> <br /> <font size="2">Matter and energy are opposites, and yet they are the same thing in different guises. I have learned that if I am going to take a strong position on anything, I have to take an equally strong position on the opposite side of it, because if I do not, I will not understand it, and will only be escalating needless conflict and confusion. </font><br /> <br /> <font size="2">The fact that most people don't know this, is the cause of destructive conflict in nearly all of its guises.</font></p><p> </p> <div style="text-align: center;"><span class="sizeLess20">Interview Copyright 2005, Michael Chacko Daniels.  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